09-05-2016, 12:28 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-05-2016, 07:32 PM by Eric the Green.)
(09-05-2016, 12:21 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:But clearly I understand their point of view, even though I don't try to go into the history to psycho or socio-analyze why they supposedly think the way they do, beyond the basic stuff. There's no real reason to do that, although I could; people are responsible for their views, with no excuses allowed. I guess you mean I think the other side is brainwashed; yes I do, with abundant evidence to that effect. People tend to live in their cultural balloons; yes, I get that. I would disagree that this is an excuse to hold dangerous and incorrect views. My article clearly lays out what the free market advocates think, and why. You didn't see that, I guess; quite typical of you.(09-05-2016, 10:15 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: I don't know if you've read any of my articles, or would admit it if you have not. But if you haven't, you can't really say I don't understand my political rivals. For example, can you honestly say that I don't understand my free-market opponents upon reading this article?
http://philosopherswheel.com/freemarket.html
No, you are not on my list of top authors such that I pursue everything you're written. I get what I feel to be enough of your writing here. I don't find that particular article enlightening, but more of the same. It is black and white, clearly presents you right other guys wrong. I am not disagreeing with you that recent Republican presidents have way way overdone supply side stimulus. Another aggressive supply sider would likely do no better than the Bushes. I just don't see you making any attempt to really understand why history veered that way and why so many people still want to head that way. Your perspective is more or less 'brainwashed by evil clown".
Quote:I too have found his recent posts revealing. I'm remaining something of a neo-whig myself. I still find much of your presentation of ideas that you oppose to be shallow straw men.
I don't see any basis for such an opinion. Partisan and unflinching; yes. Shallow; no.
Quote:(09-05-2016, 10:15 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: What I notice often from you, Tara (especially), galen and others, is that when I make measured and qualified statements, they are ignored. Only my apparent extremist positions are heard or remembered.
We're too busy responding to the other stuff to notice the alleged measured and qualified qualified stuff.
It's not that hard to notice the latter. It really isn't.
Of course, a "straw man" is easy to knock down. If you make me into one, for example.
And if you include in that "we" Taramarie, kinser and Galen, then like most trolls, they don't count. And without them, there's not a whole lot of "we" here. And I don't expect strong conservatives in general to agree with me, and that's OK. All views are worth representing on this forum. Even if I think they are "brainwashed." I know the other side thinks the same of me. At least I can hope that a little bit of "cleaning" happens through the mutual exposure of opposing views. I prefer not to live in my bubble or echo chamber, at least not all the time.