The Partisan Divide on Issues

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(08-31-2021, 11:37 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(08-31-2021, 10:34 AM)David Horn Wrote: My response in order (numbering mine for simplicity):

1. We agree on this one at least.
   
2. Whoa!  It was Trump who separated children from their parents and lost the paperwork to reunite them.  He also had no issue with MBS killing a journalist for being, you know, a journalist.  In fact, there are so many examples it's hard to list them.
   
3. Come on!  Trump is all about identifying and attacking his enemies -- something he's done his entire life.  He even goes after loyal friends if they aren't sufficiently loyal in his estimation.
   
4. Trump was the guy who wanted military ideation, and used troops as props.  They were "his generals" and "his troops" after all.
   
5. This is such a stretch you have to be kidding.  Democrats got rid of their predators -- even ones who probably didn't really deserve it.  Trump made a point of being a predator and got cheered-on by his party.
   
6. This is easy.  Fox, OANN, Breitbart and many other RW media never criticized Trump, no matter how thoroughly it was deserved.  The so-called MSM have had at Biden for his failures at Afghan withdrawal. since it started  QED.
   
7. This was Trump's forte: get us inside fortress America, build the military up even further and screw every other nation -- even staunch allies.  You do remember the wall, I assume.
   
8. Only the GOP and Evangelicals have truly united politics and religion in this country.  Period.
   
9. Trump killed all anti-trust activities, and tried to defund that part of the Justice Department.  He reduced corporate taxes to almost nothing, and front loaded the cuts via a tax holiday on foreign earnings to make certain that they happened on his watch.
   
10. How you twisted this one is beyond me.  Biden isn't overly friendly to labor, but Trump was and still is outright antagonistic.
    
11. The entire GOP is built on anti-intellectualism.  You guys own this one 100%
    
12. Trump has alwasy been for harsh punishment of the lowly and a free pass to the rich and powerful.  He lobbied to have the Central Park Five executed even after they were found unequivocably innocent.
    
13. This isn't even funny.  The Trump administration handed out no-bid contracts like candy.
    
14. Trump is still pissed that he couldn't reverse an obvious loss.  He even took it to Congress in force on 1/6.
    

You don't even get a "nice try" on this one.

I didn't expect a "nice try" from you guys. I expected more of the same. So, how long are you guys going to continue going along with polishing turds? You do know a polished turd is still a turd right?

I tried to be different from David Horn in explaining how wrong you are and especially how wrong Trump is. Trump shows all of the warning signs of fascism. He may not be the one to achieve it; he is simply too erratic, lazy, and witless to achieve it. If Classic X'er is a genuine fascist (whether he knows it or not) then the disappearance of his idol Trump from public life will not lead him from fascism. He will find another racist demagogue who tells him what he wants to hear. 

(If some con artist tells me that I am an unusually astute investor who can appreciate a truly-special investment, then I am running away. I know that I am not Warren Buffett, and I would rather follow Warren Buffett than someone who tries to butter me up into buying some shady investment. That is, if I had the money).  

We aren't out of the woods. At least the "lions and tigers and bears" usually try to leave us alone. Statistically you are in far more danger from a rabid animal than from "lions and tigers and bears". If Toto does not have his rabies shot he is even more dangerous than "lions and tigers and bears" in the woods... or if Baum had put the yellow brick road through a swamp, alligators in said swamp.  

Fascism does not need the personality of Donald Trump. It does need deviousness and demagoguery. It needs the Big Lie, the effort to harmonize logical contradictions between class interests, between tradition and progress, between superstition and science, and the pompous self-image of the demagogue against his moral emptiness. There will be another after Trump is gone. Maybe someone more sophisticated. On the other hand, if we get genuine human solidarity, fascism will become a sick joke much like BUF figures from the 1930's in Monty Python sketches.