Political compass for the21st century

[Eric the Green]

(03-19-2021, 04:03 AM)Captain Genet Wrote:

(03-18-2021, 01:48 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Ah, so the new incarnation of you has more moderated positions. Very good.

Now, maybe you can begin to see that "sex, drugs and rock'n'roll", as the modern-day version of wine, women and song, has its place too, and I agree that "a civilized person puts other, more complex goals first". I also contend that the 2nd-turning version was better than the 3T version, because it had its high-art "extropy" aspects. These may not be so apparent in the portion that is readily available on mainstream media. That's why I recommend you peruse my list! 
http://philosopherswheel.com/ericrock.html (and brower too; he still prefers the previous 4T version)

I decided to listen to one song per day. Today is time for The Who with "Won't Get Fooled Again" and I definitely enjoy it. The length is a surprise, I'm used to song that last for 3-4 minutes, not 8. Some 2T music is stuporous and boring, like some 3T music is chaotic and aggressive. But I was wrong to assume all 2T music is like the music I disliked.

I can tentatively conclude that Boomers will be remembered as musically talented, like Transcendentals are remembered as great poets.

Quote:I see how the word "extropy" relates to "entropy," the 2nd law of thermodynamics used to propose the ultimate run-down of the universe, and how extropy might be an alternative to this supposed destiny. If that's what it means, heartily agree. I believe some people used the word "negentropy" for this, probably based on the work of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin.

You've got this right. Negentropy sounds weird though, it's a positive thing so why the "neg" as in "negative".

Ultimate run-down of the universe will happen in about 100 trillion years, so we shouldn't worry about it. The Cosmos is still a child. Most civilizations are yet to be born, and it's likely we are the first to arise, at least in the Milky Way galaxy.

Thanks for checking out the songs. Very cool. It is truly a universe of sounds and songs; even I find more to discover from this era as the years go by. But definitely there's a need to be selective, as with all pop music eras. 

I do worry about what will happen in 100 trillion years; just my hangup I guess. Time passes and catches up with us, even trillions of years later. It will come. I like to think extropy will grow and reverse the entropy trend, and there will be a legacy to all the civilizations in the universe that will never die. And I certainly tend to think we are not the first, and that we have been visited by our forebears. But the evidence for this is so-far not conclusive, so skepticism is understandable. I tend to think the Earth is in a specially-favored place, so we have a special destiny if we seize it. And our growing relationship with "the other side" is another aspect to our destiny. Also, not a field where the evidence is conclusive, but strong.