Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can!

[Eric the Green]

(08-18-2016, 12:39 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(08-17-2016, 06:09 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(08-17-2016, 12:45 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I'd love to have the power to control the environment. As far as your question, I don't know the answer. I'm not a liberal who appears to  believe that we can control the environment or the world with sacrifices.

You really fell into the liberal trap on that one, Classic! Of course we have the power to limit floods and fires in the future. It depends on whether we switch from fossil fuels to solar, wind and electric cars, how fast we change, and whether government helps in this transition. That fact is very well-known indeed. Only the right wing fails to realize this fact today.

Not really. I clearly excluded myself. Whatever we do today will have no impact on the climate change that we'll be experiencing during our lifetime. Dude, you'd need a complete transformation with the snap of two fingers.

It's true that what we have done by electing Reagan Republicans and Reagan Democrats up and down the ballot for 35 years leaves our climate in poor shape. But it's a matter of degree and severity. If we put progressives in office increasingly now, and if green entrepreneurs are successful, a green energy boom is due to start in 2 years. That's practically a snap of the fingers. The transition will ramp up quickly in the next decade or two, and that will be enough to prevent some floods and hurricanes, even in our lifetimes. They will be less severe than if we do nothing, as Republicans propose, or double down on pollution, as Trump proposes. There's considerable variation in what we will experience, depending on what we do-- or so the climate models predict.

And educated, informed, intelligent and concerned folks (i.e. "progressives") understand that what matters is not just what happens "in our lifetimes."

Since we have failed to prevent many of these severe weather disasters, although we could have, mitigation measures will be needed, as well as relief, and that will require government action (and therefore taxes) too.