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I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008
(08-15-2020, 07:29 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(08-15-2020, 03:47 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(08-15-2020, 02:49 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: By the way -- we are now late into the Crisis Era.

Well, about 9 years to go out of 21. I guess that's late, if you want to define it that way.

My only argument with a 20-21 year long 4T is why?  2Ts and 4Ts run hot; 1Ts and 3Ts run cool.  One solid data point: we've just had a long 3T.  Can we possibly maintain crisis level intensity for that long?  I doubt it -- especially in this county.

Another 6 years of crisis is my best guess, with a messy transition to the next 1T.

Possibly, you could define the 3T mood as starting to take over at the end of the awakening heart and lasting until the crisis trigger and regeneracy. In this case, it started shortly after the 68 Democratic Convention and lasted until COVID or an effective response to COVID. That is a lot longer than 21 years.

The generation configurations might last 21 years, or a little longer given increased lifespan. The intense years of the awakening and crisis are much shorter. A crisis war used to take about 5 years, and you add a bit for the never again period. A religious revival in the old Industrial Age used to take a year or two. The Beatles lasted somewhat longer.

This leaves a lot of unraveling.
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RE: I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008 - by Bob Butler 54 - 08-15-2020, 08:43 AM

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