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I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008
As for new values, the New Deal had very broad appeal because it aimed to improve the economic lot of a multitude. There was no regional emphasis.

This time around we have this red/blue thing. These two side seem to be roughly equal in strength. I think that each would reject the imposition of the other's values.

There is nothing comparable to the New Deal, at least not yet. It may well be that America's new civic order will mean loosening up the federal structure, the country decentralizing.

Indeed, I recall a comment from American Nations, that decentralization may be the only common ground for the different regions of the country.
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RE: I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008 - by Tim Randal Walker - 08-05-2020, 09:55 AM

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