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I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008
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The seeming inability of the 2008 trigger to bring basic structural change is explained, as always, by the fact that this 4T is in a double rhythm with the civil war 4T, which began circa 1848-1850 and didn't lead to structural change until the end in 1865. We are 1850s redux.

The civil war crisis was not a reconstructive one until Lincoln was elected. Before that, it was just some bleeding. The nature of a civil war crisis is that the nation is divided, and a nation divided cannot bring reconstructive change until one side of the divide (the retrograde side) is defeated. The nation divided and unable to act is our crisis. Obama's election in 2008 was a trigger that further divided the nation, leading to Trump-- who since 2016 has been a crisis in himself.

Gen Z is not a self-conception; it was defined demographically by Pew Research. In reality, Gen Z are late Millennials, just as late Xers were once called Gen Y, especially by people here.

Sub generations exist, but 15-year full generations do not. I already laid out these timelines in my book.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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RE: I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008 - by Eric the Green - 06-27-2020, 03:42 PM

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