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I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008
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(06-18-2020, 01:55 PM)Mikebert Wrote:
(06-17-2020, 03:50 PM)TnT Wrote: Whenever the hell it started, we sure are in it now, and it has all the makings of "putting all the cards on the table," as the theory suggests is probable.

I agree. But it makes a huge difference whether this early in the 4T (meaning there is still time for change to occur) or we are late in the 4T in which the "change" was a collective decision to NOT change and go gently into that good night as a nation.

I don't see any reason the pace of change needs to be tied to a schedule of any kind.  The arrival of an anticipated though unpredictable pandemic is a case in point.  By it's very nature, it sets the pace, but could just as easily have arrived 10 years ago or 10 years from now.  The same could have been true of a climate catastrophe, but wasn't this time.  The other crises are certainly human caused, but the economic stressors are tied to the pandemic, so even there the pace is set by nature.

Until this confluence occurred, I was expecting a do-nothing 4T. I'm not expecting that now.  As far as when the beginning trigger can be set, that's still arguable.  I think we all agree that, barring the election of Barack Obama, a Donald Trump Presidency was a fantasy. Is that a legitimate argument for 2008?  Perhaps.  It will be a while before this all settles out, and how that happens will be the most instructive on how and why it started.  We can collectively choose chaos or a new order, but that choice is still in the future.
Intelligence is not knowledge and knowledge is not wisdom, but they all play well together.
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RE: I'm a sceptic that the 4th Turning started in 2008 - by David Horn - 06-19-2020, 08:43 AM

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