Breaking the idea that saeculums are ~85 years

[Bill the Piper]

(07-01-2019, 05:13 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: No, because the 1980 recession continued and got worse, and Reagan was unpopular. Which party is in power in the white house does not necessarily define a turning. A turning is a national social and cultural mood, not a political party in office. Nixon's election in 1968 didn't end the 2T either. In any case, Reagan and Thatcher were powered into office by means of a movement that started in 1964, the first year of the 2T. Did you watch the video?

I've just finished the video I really wanted to watch it yesterday, but I had to go to work. Now I am convinced 1964 was indeed a watershed. Both the Democrats and Republicans of today were invented in 1964. Johnson's presidency was the beginning of a liberalism focused on racial issues. Don't get me wrong, I think the anti-racist movements of the millennial saeculum were really necessary. The South's racist laws should have been abolished after the Civil War, or even during the Revolutionary War. After Johnson's ban on racial discrimination, the movements started morphed into something less valuable. I don't support cultural relativist rejection of the Western civilization, an idiotic sentiment best expressed by Jesse Jackson: "Hey hey, ho ho, Western culture's got to go." I also believe affirmative action is racism of low expectations, but these were hardly issues in 1964.
Then Barry Goldwater was almost a Reagan since he combined economic individualism (neoliberalism) with support for aggressive military action (neoconservatism). In fact he defined the Republican party until the coming of Trump.

Ku Klux Klan murdering White activists who defended Blacks remind me of the Islamists killing fellow Muslims accused of working with Western forces. But there were disturbing elements on the inclusive side too. The march on Washington reminded me of Mussolini's march on Rome. Not to mention the hysterical adoration of the Beatles, which looked like the adoration of Hitler! I can easily imagine GI parents being shocked by their kids acting like that! Actually some neo-Nazis on aryanist.net made the same comparison, noting that such adoration of "idols" was never a part of pre-war Western culture apart from fascism.

Regarding the dates: I came to the conclusion turnings in culture and politics can be a few years apart. 1980 was a beginning of a new political era, but culturally the 2T continued into the 80s. The political 3T started indeed in 2008, but culturally Digital Transformation was brewing in nerdy circles since the late 90s and became mainstream in 2006 with MySpace. This is the same sentiment as Occupy and Arab Spring: