Does this Crisis echo the Glorious Revolutuon?

[Bill the Piper]

(02-19-2019, 05:01 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: I disagree with your view of Mohammed and Islam, Bill. As a member of the Left, I also refuse to condemn them, and assert that the horrors of terrorist fundamentalism are the views and actions of extremists that have some appeal in oppressed societies. I agree that action needs to be taken to restrain and if necessary capture perpetrators of evil, and to counteract extremist fundamentalism by such efforts as taking down their websites and countering their propaganda.

So you disagree that Mohammed was wrong to call for murdering people and to have sex with a 9-year-old? Wouldn't you condemn an American evangelical preacher doing the same things? I'm sure you would. So they are evil in 2019. Would you condemn the evangelical if he committed these crimes in 1949? I'm sure you would. So they were evil in 1949 as well. At which point between 649 and 1949 it ceased to be OK to call for murder and have sex with a child?

Moral shortcomings are by no means unique to Islam. Some natural religions in Africa and Melanesia involved ritual cannibalism. Philistine and Aztec religions required mass human sacrifice. The fact remains, that among extant faiths it's Islam that causes the most problems. Buddhism, Zoroastrianism and Christianity are probably the most morally evolved creeds, and it's Christians (maybe especially the British Empire) who suppressed bloody customs all over the world. I'm sure that if there was a Buddhist superpower, it would do the same.

The Left was more ready to criticize Islam after 2006, following the release of God Delusion by Dawkins. I thought it's slowly going back to its pre-1968 self, to cosmopolitanism and rationalism. But around 2015 anti-immigrant populism grew stronger, and since the Left could NOT allow itself to agree with its attacks on Islam, they went back to defending the religion.

BTW to criticize Islam doesn't require one to oppose Muslim immigration to Western Democracies. But the migrants should be required to adopt to Western lifestyle, rather than isolate themselves and cling to shariah.

If you bring up oppression - Polish people were oppressed by the Reds, but they didn't blow themselves up, but migrated to the UK and America to seek constructive employment.